Mountain lions also have tails that can grow up to 3 feet. First off if the standard for an agency to go forward with the public and put out a press release that them outlines here their believers are going to say I told you they'd been here the whole time. Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. If mountain lions returned to Massachusetts, there is no need to update current forest management practices. Are there mountain lions in Massachusetts. Peter Biello: From New Hampshire Public Radio I'm Peter Biello in for Lark Knoy and this is the exchange. Right. Shop. Sam Evans Brown. And I just said I saw I saw they from behind the shoulder all the way past the long tail. There were pine cones on window sills, a well-used hatchet and a variety of animal figurines on display, and, near the television, a stack of videos including. Sam what's the incentive for the government to deny allegedly. I wasn't employed as biologists at the time of a situation that's been reported but so I started digging into this report and spoke with another wildlife biologist with the agency and said Do you know anything about this. He also collects sighting reports on his blog, simply dubbed, "New Hampshire Mountain Lion." The blog still gets sightings, most recently on Aug. 3. Thank you very much for being here. ml central ma. Mike thanks for your call. It was in the spring flash kind of early summer and my wife looked at you look at the size of an adult bear and we were up in arms. Patrick Tate: So I just got to throw a little interesting side note in this. She favors plaid shirts, green Dickies work pants, and hiking boots, and she chided me for shaking her hand too gently. And here we're talking about in this situation we're talking about it migrated from the West. The feedback will only be used for improving the website. Because while male cougars eventually strike out on their own and occasionally wander far from home, females are, as Morse puts it, hardwired to remain close to their mothers home range. Do they travel. Today. A: I should have asked a turkey hunter! Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. Q:While walking October Mountain just recently, I am sure I saw a mountain lion. Colorado and California have the highest estimated populations of mountain lions in the United States. MassWildlife uses evidence-based criteria to confirm reports of mountain lions and does not investigate or confirm reports without evidence. OK. Rick van de Poll: Rick and I would add that if a mountain lion male takes up residence and successfully finds a female as pets there's gonna be a lot more evidence there will be like deer carcasses up in trees and territorial marking and claw marks and tracks and it you know dispersal is gonna be very tough to see or observed but residential parrots a totally different story. So yeah as far as wildlife species that put deer and trees know there aren't any others that I know of that put deer in trees just just humans might be responsible for that. So so. Betsy started as an intern at WNPR in 2011 after earning a Master's Degree in American and Museum Studies from Trinity College. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. Rick van de Poll: Well education is the real important thrust of of what all of us do as biologists and Game Managers and to make sure that a things like what Sam was saying that in spite of what you believe the mountain lions will not eat your children they will not steal your pets from your backyard and they will not necessarily be seen by you unless you're extremely lucky. What's interesting about Bobcats is here in the Northeast we have some very large bobcats. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track. Watch. I just saw the head and the tail that was leaving. You know I think it's there's a lady Holly Ernst out in California who has done a lot of the genotyping of mountain lions in Northern California the ones that are of course most people have heard about taking down hikers bikers etc. Top-requested sites to log in to services provided by the state. Pinterest. This is why tangible evidence is so important. That's what we're seeing is dispersing mountain lions from the West who are just making their way through. I think they never left, Ottmann piped in. Oh well, not much I can do about that., William B., of Pittsfield wrote, I learned something from your column about invasive species. Well thanks for sharing. Some of these photos have taken on urban legend status. It continues in Connecticut, where that South Dakota cat was killed in 2011, and in Massachusetts, despite two credible reports in the past quarter century (in one case, DNA-confirmed scat; in the other, verified tracks). DEPARTMENTAL BULLETIN 1 of 13 Number: 2013-02 Date Issued: March 1, 2013 . State law protects all species unless otherwise noted. I found a second scat scent both to him. I was a Bobcat we saw it and I have a picture of it. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. Don't miss your chance to win three two thousand dollar gas gift cards at any station of your choice not to mention the grand prize twenty five thousand dollars toward a new car. She is renowned for tracking. Fish and Game then deny the evidence. Fish and Wildlife Service unofficially declared the Eastern cougar extinct. The engineers Dan Colgan our senior producer is Allan Grimm. So. ml central ma. Coyotes have been mistaken for mountain lions. Caller: Oh hi. Finally, in the third camp, there are the true believersthe cougar truthers, if you willthe men and women for whom the only logical conclusion (often reached after a significant investment of time, thought, and sometimes money) is that right here, right now, cougars live among us, feeding and breeding and rearing their young, and that suggesting otherwise is sheer ignorance, willful denial, or part of a mosaic of conspiracy. At 6:20 on the morning of Aug. 20, Cheri Mazerall had just let her cat out the back door when she saw what she describes as a "beautiful, large beige/yellow" animal with "large feet and a long tail" come over her . Love hearing these stories. So the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station has a database on mountain lion and they can identify. by BCR. Thank you in advance., Thomas P. wrote, I never thought coltsfoot was invasive. The last three eastern cougars were killed in 1930 in Tennessee . But if you do if you think you're looking at a wild Puma their tail is very thick and especially in the winter is very thick and ponderous looking. We hadnt seen a cougar, nor any evidence to suggest a cougar had traveled these woods recently. MassWildlife receives dozens of reportsa year, most are simplyreportsor sightings with no evidence. Coyotes have also been mistaken for Mountain Lions. Let's talk to Mike in Webster. An adult male bobcat can reach four feet in length and 35 to 40 pounds. Or years or so. They lived perhaps elsewhere in New England and they were just passing through and happened to have an encounter of some sort. OK. The big cat on the ground before him, motionless, yet somehow still embodying that particular feline litheness, as if, with the flick of its tail, it might bound to its feet and disappear into the woods. Perhaps, then, the ultimate question isnt whether cougars are among us, but rather how we can encourage them to settle here. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. We think theyre coming in from Canada, Betty told me. Here's why reports are so tough to prove mass.gov/doc/mountain-lions-in-massachusetts-distinguishing-fiction-from-the-facts/download, There are 69 invasive plant species in Massachusetts. hen I accepted the assignment to write about my quest to uncover the truth regarding the existence of cougars in New England, I had little idea what I was agreeing to. And he said, This is where the mountain lion crossed. We walked in and there were fresh bobcat tracks in there. ML Sighting - By Joe September 19, 2016 at 00:31:14 AM. And listeners this has been a lively conversation we're sorry we didn't get to all the the e-mailed comments and the phone calls your stories are appreciated even if we didn't get a chance to hear them today. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Use this button to show and access all levels. Mountain lions became scarce in the East after a bounty system wiped out most predatory animals. Share sensitive information only on official, secure websites. Really appreciate you guys being here as well. Do we have native species that could have exhibited this type of behavior leaving leaving a deer carcass up in a tree. They reported seeing the big tail and everything everything. None of the rumors are true. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. For all the men out there that don't realize it. Let's go now to to Kyle in Keene I believe Kyle is this Kyle Jarvis from the Keene Sentinel a former reporter and former reporter. So for me as a person who's had the Bobcats right off my grits similar carries sticks to a bobcat The Long Tail obviously very different but those facial markings were overlapping for me. Weve done a lot of work over the years investigating sightings. Caller: It had just left that field and was out. brings a lot of. Something along those lines. Learn more about the two confirmed reports of mountain lions in Massachusetts atmass.gov/dfw/mt-lions. We strolled across the tavern parking lot and ducked into the forest, where Ottmann maintains a portion of his $15,000 worth of wildlife recording equipment (hes had no luck capturing a cougar on camera, though, despite more than a decade of trying). If you dont think cougars are coming to the East, think again, she said, leaning forward for emphasis. And it was you know 10 or 12 people saw it all at once. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas. By now, I knew the answer to that one. Well let me ask maybe Pat and Rick about this. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. And so when they come to him with a sighting, hes prepared to believe. Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. Groton Mass Rail trail sighting - By Erica September 25, 2014 at 02:17:51 AM. McEnroe: It is an uphill challenge. These highlights have been edited and condensed for length and clarity. It seems like nothing will kill them! I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. Ive seen bobcats before, this wasnt a bobcat. And its a lose-lose situation, because theres really not a whole lot you can tell them in most cases thats going to change their mind.. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. But people in the region are posting like crazy online to the New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin. There is no evidence of a reproducing mountain lion population in Massachusetts, MassWildlife says on its website. They're just moving around freely. Mountain lions dont usually travel more than 100 miles from where they are born. A couple of summers ago I found it in our yard and was happy to see it by cultivating it into a small patch. Peter Biello: Let's talk to Ron and where Ron thanks very much for calling. In the first, there are those such as myself, whove maybe heard a few second- or third- or fourth-hand stories as well as official denials from state agencies or professional biologists, and therefore find themselves betwixt and between, neither believing nor disbelieving. So they're not afraid of humans and they'll show up like a regular housecat. The great thing about pictures isn't the animal itself it's the background. A lock icon ( A harvest is kind of twofold. An adult male bobcat can reach four feet in length and 35 to 40 pounds. ; track sets or photos of track sets; other tangible physical evidence verified by qualified professionals.". New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board, Mountain lion/wolf sightings in Central Ma, Re(1): Mountain lion/wolf sightings in Central Ma, Re(2): Mountain lion/wolf sightings in Central Ma, Ellisville State Park cougar killed crossing 3A in S. Plymouth, MA, Re(1): Ellisville State Park cougar killed crossing 3A in S. Plymouth, MA, Re(2): Ellisville State Park cougar killed crossing 3A in S. Plymouth, MA, Sighting just over CT border into Vista, NY, Re(1): Sighting just over CT border into Vista, NY, VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(1): VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(2): VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(3): VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(4): VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(1): Mountain lion/bobcat?/North Andover. Mountain lions weigh . It was a 140-pound male mountain lion, the first confirmed in Connecticut in more than 100 years. Well within there. We need [an apex] predator back on the land, Sue Morse told me. Because he lives among them, Harrigan understands that no one knows the woods better. Mountain lions remain an enigmatic animal for residents of New Hampshire, with New Hampshire Fish and Game reporting three to five sightings per week. Peter Biello: And that will make identification for a layperson rather difficult. You have permission to edit this article. And maybe it's a no holds barred nostalgia for a better world a wild or Fuller world not a world that's constrained by our boundaries and our taxes and our highways. Peter Biello: Listeners give us a call if you have a question or a story of a sighting 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Connecticut Dept. Further, it is already illegal to kill a mountain lion in Massachusetts. Tell us your story. Post a New Message | Search | New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board . Morse introduced me to her cat, Allister, whom she referred to as her portable puma. Then she fetched me a beer. Any sense of of whether or not mountain lions are sort of wary of more population dense areas like like the one he was describing Rick. He can be reached by phone at 860-275-7297 or by email: pskahill@ctpublic.org. Patrick Tate: If I could just say one thing. You need you need either a really good photograph or you need you know fresh scat that can be sent to a lab out West that can they can be identified there. (I don't get the daily Eagle but I get The Berkshires in Brief [online newsletter] and read it daily.). Morse, 70, comports herself in a friendly and no-nonsense manner. And why would they what. He said matter of fact I do. Now Bobcat is a completely different species. Sam Evans-Brown: And when we talk about subspecies this actually leads to to an interesting tangent which is that the field of biology recently has been sort of revolutionized by the use of DNA to determine what subspecies are. Yeah 13 to 15 years ago 13 to 15 years ago. Wild populations of mountain lion survive in southern Florida and in mountains of the West. Patrick Tate: Yes. Its distinctive featurethe one that sets it apart from other North American wild catsis its tail, which is thick and often as long as its body. But that was OK. Bo Ottmannknew they were out there. Do you get a lot of these these these things that end up being hoaxes. A lot of times. Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. Give today. Sam Evans-Brown: What he would have stopped as well I think is way way that the reason that mountain lion kept moving is because he wasn't finding anybody. In 2011, a dead western mountain lion was found in Connecticut after it got hit by a car. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. I do this shit.. You know interactions are pretty unusual. Yes. 172. On the other side, there are those (as represented here by Bill Betty and Bo Ottmann, along with a number of others I spoke with) who say the overwhelming quantity of anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. Because they are.. Sam Evans-Brown: You know the North America had a number of large predator species when humans first arrived in the continent. Betty had driven up from his home in Rhode Island. I started asking a lot of questions, and realized theres only one explanation for the answers I was getting: They are here., You could have 30 in Connecticut alone. But one day. So here we have you know a very qualified biologist who who found a print took a plaster cast found a scat send it to a university. Wildlife experts say no. Because I mean as we've heard in the past 10 minutes like there's there's some disagreement or at least some some vagueness about what an actual mountain lion should appear like in the wild assuming we can even get close enough. Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. If we end up with a population, it will be the result of a colonizer female who gets here somehow, some way, and the rest will be history.. [An overabundance of deer] means our forests are getting older and older and not being replaced. He also points to the influx of invasive plant species in New England as evidence of an out-of-control deer population. Here's a look at 8 commonly found in the Berkshires.
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