This subject makes me sick. Feminism is merely a modern Western aberration. I think its quite funny that you make the cultural practices of other countries an argument for how Christians should live. And you seem to see yourself not as a good child, a child of the light, but as a dark child. I get two on Sunday, one in the morning before worship, and one in the evening before bible study. The abuse comes in different forms. Male headship is followed all over the world. Daisy: I dont have issues with men. Then in your next paragraph: Men are not the loving protectors that some claim that they should be Er Careful, Julie Anne, true alpha females dont go over the top. No this is not like the playground bully. 1986)., Yeah, it even helps to read an interlinear every now and then and do a bit of Greek/Hebrew study. How does a husband exert authority over a woman? Jennas Punishment Spanking (Christian Domestic Discipline Marriage #1) During a disagreement, Jenna storms out of the house without telling her husband where she's going. He waits not for the tears to start, but for a repenting, submissive cry, and spanks me even after this. Or are women and little girls suppose to hurt to make Christian men feel good, I lived this life, it hurts so much. I wanted to thank you so much for all of your articles. And now for the part that might get me consigned to the doghouse: He is one pompous donkey. Enjoy each others smug, judgmental company. maybe a directory of churches and communities, that still get it, would help . Personal attacks are not. (starting with Genesis 2:18 and 3:16 funny how many great verses in the Bible are 3:16, isnt it? But unlike the "Cry U.S.E." WebThen I went to college and met my husband James, and became a Christian. The article talked about it being abusive to spank children up to adulthood, but why is it only abusive if it is done up to adulthood. Do any of you no-doubt scrupulously well-balanced people with whom all wisdom will die understand that there are all sorts of emotional triggers that turn people on, and that some women love being spanked and find it erotic? The first thing we were told was a regularly scheduled spanking, and maintenance spanking, was needed, and it should be daily in the beginning. And then to quote half of 1Cor 7:4! How? He is the boss. Wife Spanking, Christian Domestic Discipline, Domestic Violence *** You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered. So-called Christian domestic discipline occurs in a marriage when one or both partners use biblical support to rationalize an unscriptural and un-Christian lifestyle. He was so different than the other Christians I had met, many of whom tormented my Jewish best friend and my completely secular family. Its heartbreaking to read your accounts both here and elsewhere and if you were not in a rage it would be nothing short of miraculous. Domestic Disciplining is consistent with the natural instincts of men and women which is why it has been practiced for so long, and why it will keep coming back over and over whether you like it or not. I grew up in a home that practiced CDD, my mom was no stranger to dads strap that he kept on a hook is his study. Time to go. He told me I was never to wear such slutty clothing and made me throw them all away (after beating my bottom). He is giving me enough leeway so I am not really stressed about it, and since our test spank, I know what Im in for if I fail. his God-given authority and actually lead.. This podcast series is about the practical application of Domestic Discipline. Dad took off my slacks and panties and handed the strap to my husband. They shift shame, fault and blame to the one who has been wronged. Christian Domestic Discipline / Spencer Respect and Submission in domestic discipline Respect and Submission are of particular importance in a marriage because the standard marriage vows for the bride always included the phrase to love, honor and obey her husband. Continue reading. In the case you need to discipline your wife while on a voyage, you know you can do so without attracting attention. I dont know where the line is, but looking back now I think I can say that spanking even at 14 or 15 was not right and certainly not up to the age I was. Thats why Hollywood had/has such a high divorce rate two stars who were independently wealthy married and then when the marriage went south, the wife knew she could divorce without losing her livelihood. I applaud you for wanting to help her. I have never married. If not which of you 2 does? Just like there are many realities behind the word marriage, there are many realities behind the term domestic discipline. Its strikes me as odd that I am in the kind of relationship that we are in and, to be honest, I get what I want most of the time just by asking. Thats too much? Just about to board the 2nd leg of my flight to Chicago. I take it that you are a man pretending to be a woman. But unlike the "Cry U.S.E." But having said all that, you have something practical, but difficult, which you must do. Here are some tidbits of the arrest report: [redacted] told me Jamin has a couple of different hunting rifles, a couple of shot guns, a Glock pistol and another silver pistol. States have laws restricting what people in a position of influence can do with those they employ or counsel or pastor or treat. Im about the only one here who actually quotes scripture. There is plenty of information out there, why dont you do your research instead of spreading intolerance and hatry. She will need to learn some self-control with not crying out, or bite a pillow to keep quiet. Because of his behavior with no rage, just an expectancy of needing to control you, it makes me think this was normal within his background or upbringing. While he never threatened my life physically and I still think he would never have that in him, the fact is that the abuse did threaten my life in terms of making me feel very alone and afraid not very good inside. At first I couldnt believe that women were advocating being spanked by their husbands and submitting fully to their authority. When Jamin came home with a new laptop and never mentioned it to her she was trying to keep him accountable. I find your style offensive. When women were welcomed, for the most part, into the workforce and had independent means of support, the divorce rate skyrocketed. Did you tell him why you were leaving? Even the words used I think make some women question whether it is wrong or not. James truly believed in The safety plan needs to be reviewed and modified whenever the situation changes e.g. Tell him to clear off out of your life. Most wives cant be as obedient and submissive as God wants unless their Husbands are strict and are willing to give them spankings when they mess up. What do you pray when youre hitting your wife? Hes made the right call. You take it up with him. This is your warning. Whatever you want. You need to be more Christ-like, Jesus never told a woman that she had to be subject to any man, have sex with her husband against her will. This is the right relationship for people to live in my opinion. Im a happy happy wife! Anonymous, experience project.com, 12. Im only part way through the rather long article, which was suggested by Lydia, but from what I have read so far, I can suggest that http://www.nacr.org/wordpress/160/the-f-word-forgiveness-and-its-imitations might be worth a look see. Male headship is followed all over the world. Wife spanking is often referred to as Christian Domestic Discipline, as if to make it more politically correct. Im afraid were wasting our time attempting to engage somebody who justifies the abuse of women. Our opinions dont matter when our husbands spanks us. Do you have a problem with that? And it just baffles me that getting hit makes your marriage closer. Men ruling over women was a result of the fall, of sin entering humanity it was never Gods intent. I had my hands up and she walks into me. Jamin was not told about the allegations made against him by [redacted] to me. 1Pet 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Its heavy shepherding gone mad. [redacted] never told the investigating deputy the truth about what was going on that night because Jamin told her they would both be arrested, and law enforcement would take their children away. IMO. If I put my wife in a french maid or indian princess outfit, am I not seeing, at least in part, a french maid or indian princess? Apparently intheir world, girls do not grow up . [redacted] said Jamin has used pornography as a means of punishment towards [redacted]. Previously I have shown Domestic Discipline to be both a Biblical concept as well as a historical practice amongst husbands for thousands of years on my Instagram page @biblicalsexandiscipline and on my blog Biblicalgenderroles.com as well as podcasts I dont expect you to see it. These three core values are essential: Communication, Consent, & Compassion. (ShhGod is referred to as an Ezer in the OT), But if one has a spiritual male head then I would have to assume they need the qualifying phallic guidance for such things. What a heartless bunch. What you got for American never married women over the age of 40, including ones who are not under their fathers care? It might not be terribly feminist to say so, but other women like feeling powerless during conjugal relations. Thats why I always make sure I add Biblical in front so theres no confusion. I know his preferences for what needs to be done & when he says end of discussion, that is it. 1 Peter 3:7. You never fail to amuse. The call to statistics to justify that since it has to be abusive most of the time, it would be better to simply outlaw it. Anderson told Jamin it was strange and very uncommon, for someone to make a statement about having someone walk into their hand hard enough to leave marks on their throat. That is abuse in marriage. What you need to understand and accept is that people having this type of relationship proceed in a way closer to this scenario than the romantic date approach you imagine. .which is really the same problem that I see with a lot of church and family leadership. Youre the one with issues and hang ups in regards to sexuality. If every Pastor was like the one Susie writes about , the one who taught her husband how to be a good leader, there would be far fewer broken homes. I dont mean their wives are perfect and sinless. (LogOut/ This same pastor also told husbands to get control of their wives. Those verses are being filtered by you through a patriarchy lens; they do not teach or support male authority over women, nor do they limit all women of all times, cultures, and churches from leading and teaching. Under our Resources tab at A Cry For Justice we have a page with links for Hotlines: Its happenin. Does the power differential matter? For, right now most people in this thread seem to be in a bubble of self-righteousness that tends to look ridiculous from the outside, especially when the scientists obviously know nothing about the object of their analysis. Do not expect her to be silent through this experience though. Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. Her treatment is horrid and nothing short of physical, sexual, and mental torture. Jesus Christ did away with male rulership over women and clarified that women are equals to men. Its not just me that talks about your husband having authority, Julie Anne. Uh oh. Of course I think she deserved to get punished for complaining but I still felt bad for her. Needless to say, I have never tested my husband again. It is almost enough to make me hope that the doctrine of eternal conscious punishment is true, at least for some whose evil actions in this life are especially egregious.
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